Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519
03/15/2012 08:30 AM House FINANCE
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| HB301 | |
| HB245 | |
| HB179 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| + | HB 301 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 245 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 179 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE
March 15, 2012
8:54 a.m.
8:54:37 AM
CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Stoltze called the House Finance Committee meeting
to order at 8:54 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Co-Chair
Representative Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair
Representative Mia Costello
Representative Mike Doogan
Representative Bryce Edgmon
Representative Les Gara
Representative David Guttenberg
Representative Reggie Joule
Representative Mark Neuman
Representative Tammie Wilson
MEMBERS ABSENT
None
ALSO PRESENT
Joe Michel, Staff, Representative Bill Stoltze;
Representative Alan Austerman, Sponsor; Astrid Lievano,
Staff, Representative Alan Austerman; Jeff Johnson, Boating
Law Administrator, Office of Boating Safety, Division of
Parks and Outdoor Recreation, Department of Natural
Resources; Representative Mike Hawker, Sponsor; Juli Lucky,
Staff, Representative Mike Hawker; Rebecca Reichlin, Board
Chair, Four Valleys Community School, Girdwood; Jeff
Prather, Supervisor, Gaming Section, Tax Division,
Department of Revenue; Representative Bob Lynn, Sponsor;
Mike Sica, Staff, Representative Bob Lynn; Kayla Epstein,
Member, Anchorage Animal Control Advisor Board; Anne
Carpeneti, Assistant Attorney General, Legal Services
Section-Juneau, Criminal Division, Department of Law
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
Ben Ellis, Director, Division of Parks and Outdoor
Recreation, Department of Natural Resources; Jane Schultz,
Coordinator, Kenai Peninsula Emergency Services; Phil
Morgan, Animal Care Manager, Mat-Su Borough Animal Shelter,
Palmer
SUMMARY
HB 179 ANIMAL CRUELTY
HB 179 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for
further consideration.
HB 245 SNOW CLASSIC
HB 245 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for
further consideration.
HB 301 SUNSET OF BOATING REGULATION
CSHB 301(FIN) was REPORTED out of committee with
a "do pass" recommendation and with previously
published fiscal impact note: FN1 (DNR).
HOUSE BILL NO. 301
"An Act amending the termination date of certain
statutes relating to the use, operation, and
regulation of boats, a uniform state waterway marking
system, and civil liability for boat owners; providing
for an effective date by amending the effective date
of secs. 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 20, 23, 26, and
27, ch. 28, SLA 2000, as amended; and providing for an
effective date."
8:55:29 AM
Vice-chair Fairclough MOVED to ADOPT proposed committee
substitute for HB 301, Work Draft 27-LS1152\M (Martin,
3/13/12).
Co-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED for purpose of discussion.
JOE MICHEL, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE, explained
the changes in the CS. There were two sections at the
beginning of the bill that had been inserted; and he read
the inserted language in Sections 1 and 2. The wording in
Section 1 said, "Nothing in this chapter authorizes a
department or board to enter into an agreement with a
department or agency of the federal government that cedes
state authority for the management of its waterways to the
federal government." He furthered that subsections (b),
(c), and Section 2 inserts the new wording, "other than a
person employed by the federal government." He explained
that the wording currently existed in state statute.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the language was consistent
with the state's rights and assertions.
Representative Guttenberg wondered if there was cooperation
between a state and federal agencies would preclude the
bill from happening. Mr. Michel deferred the question to
the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).
Co-Chair Stoltze discussed that the language had been
vetted with the Attorney General, to ensure that it did not
contradict agreements with the Coast Guard. The subject was
a narrow issue pertaining to enforcement.
Representative Guttenberg wondered if the language applied
specifically to the program, or if it had a broad range of
application. Co-Chair Stoltze replied hoped it would have a
broad application.
Representative Gara referred to an earlier version of the
bill that included regulation on non-motorized boats. He
wondered if the work draft included regulation on non-
motorized boats. Co-Chair Stoltze responded that the
original bill, introduced by former Representative Bill
Hudson, had a reference to boats that were under a certain
length.
8:59:27 AM
Representative Gara restated his question about non-
motorized boats
Mr. Michel deferred the question to DNR.
Co-Chair Stoltze stated that Representative Gara's concerns
would be addressed by the bill sponsor.
Co-Chair Stoltze WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO
further OBJECTION, Work Draft 27-LS1152\M was ADOPTED.
REPRESENTATIVE ALAN AUSTERMAN, SPONSOR, informed the
committee that the original bill had been introduced by
former Representative Bill Hudson. He believed the program
was helpful and saved lives.
ASTRID LIEVANO, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE ALAN AUSTERMAN,
explained that HB 301 repeals the sunset dates of the
Statewide Boating Safety and Education Program. Through
this program the State of Alaska works in close cooperation
with the U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary, and
other partners to provide national award winning programs
such as the popular Kids Don't Float life jacket loaner
program, nationally approved boating courses, instructor
training, video production, and numerous publications and
instructor tools. Alaska's non-commercial boating
fatalities have dropped more than 20 percent since state
efforts began, and at least 19 Alaskan children are alive
today thanks to a Kids Don't Float life jacket. The program
has been repeatedly recognized for excellence, including
the U.S. Coast Guard's Meritorious Public Service Award.
Between 1987 and 2000 Alaska was the only state without a
comprehensive recreational boating safety program, even
though Alaska had one of the highest fatality rates in the
nation. During the same time, Alaska's share of the federal
funding available to the states for boating safety programs
was being distributed to the others states. Following 11
attempts at passage, in May of 2000, HB 108, the Alaska
Boating Safety Act (AS 05.25) was signed into law. When the
program was established, the 21st Legislature originally
added two 'sunset' provisions to repeal the Alaska Boating
Safety Act in the event the state did not receive the
anticipated federal funds. The first sunset would take
effect and the Boating Safety program would terminate if
federal funds were not appropriated. The second sunset
terminated the program by date, currently July 1, 2013. The
boating safety program had been in effect for twelve years,
and recreational boaters were safer, better educated, and
recreational boating fatalities were on a downward trend.
In comparing the number of fatalities during the first and
second half of the last ten years, fatalities had dropped
22.1 percent. At least 22 Alaska children survived a water
emergency thanks to a "Kids Don't Float" lifejacket. The
United States Coast Guard wear rate studies also show that
there are increases in lifejacket use.
9:03:40 AM
Representative Guttenberg looked at Section 3, and wondered
if there were no federal funds; and if Legislative Council
was given authority to fill the gap. Representative
Austerman replied in the affirmative.
Representative Gara wondered whether the sponsor was
working with the Coast Guard on the Kids Don't Float
program. Representative Austerman replied that he was
working with the Coast Guard as it relates to HB 301.
Representative Gara believed that some of the current life
jackets were good for lakes and calm bodies of water, but
would not prevent kids from drowning in white water rivers.
He wondered if he needed to work on that issue, or if the
bill sponsor could look into that issue. Representative
Austerman replied that the issue should be addressed by
DNR.
Representative Gara remarked that the "good" life jackets
were often easily stolen.
BEN ELLIS, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF PARKS AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES (via
teleconference), expressed support for the bill. The
language should not impact the ability to receive federal
boating safety grants and funds. The concerns of
Representative Gara would be addressed and evaluated.
JEFF JOHNSON, BOATING LAW ADMINISTRATOR, OFFICE OF BOATING
SAFETY, DIVISION OF PARKS AND OUTDOOR RECREATION,
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, introduced himself.
Co-Chair Stoltze confirmed that Mr. Johnson had also heard
Representative Gara's concerns. Mr. Johnson agreed.
Representative Edgmon pointed to a couple of parks in the
Bristol Bay area and the Togiak National Wildlife Refuge.
He wondered whether the bill would make any changes to
those parks. Mr. Johnson replied that no change would
occur.
Representative Wilson asked if a state park would qualify
for the program if it was under passive management. Mr.
Johnson replied that within the definition of "passive
management", DNR would determine whether the park would
qualify for the program, but state resources would not
continue to be used for the public.
Representative Wilson surmised that no life jackets had
been provided for the Chatanika River. Mr. Johnson replied
that he was not sure where state-provided life jackets were
available on the Chatanika River.
9:10:49 AM
JANE SCHULTZ, COORDINATOR, KENAI PENINSULA EMERGENCY
SERVICES (via teleconference), stated that the Kids Don't
Float program was a collaborative program between the
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS), the U.S.
Coast Guard, Alaska Safe Kids, and local sponsors. There
were currently 617 active life jacket board stations in 249
communities. The Alaska Boating Safety program was the
primary supplier of life jackets throughout the state, with
34,722 lifejackets provided to date. The Kids Don't Float
school program provided boating safety education for Alaska
students. Attendance for the program totaled 84,000. There
were 2,129 boaters that had completed the training course
related to boater safety. There were currently 126
instructors on the water wise education registry. She
relayed that it was heartening to see families using the
lifejackets available at public boating areas.
9:14:51 AM
Co-Chair Stoltze CLOSED public testimony. He pointed to the
fiscal impact note from Department of Natural Resources.
Representative Wilson expressed concern about the
availability of lifejackets in parks that were currently
under passive management. She wanted to increase safety for
all children. Representative Austerman replied that he had
not had the passive management conversation, and stated
that he would have to look into the issue with Legislative
Legal and DNR.
Co-Chair Stoltze asked Mr. Johnson to contact
Representative Wilson's office on the question. Mr. Johnson
responded in the affirmative, and agreed to provide that
information.
Representative Gara appreciated the responsiveness of the
department related to the Kids Don't Float program.
Vice-chair Fairclough discussed the fiscal impact note that
authorized the receipt of federal and boat receipts. She
asked whether the note was authorizing four new positions.
Ms. Lievano replied that it was her understanding the note
reauthorized funding for the current staff. Mr. Johnson
agreed.
Vice-chair Fairclough discussed another four and two
positions on the fiscal note. Mr. Johnson clarified that
the stated positions were for the current employees.
Representative Gara asked whether it was feasible to add a
$5,000 general fund amount to the fiscal note for the
lifejackets on whitewater rivers.
Co-Chair Stoltze deferred to Co-Chair Thomas. Co-Chair
Thomas noted the amount was a capital budget item.
Co-Chair Stoltze stated that the inquiry was meant for
"another vehicle."
9:19:40 AM
Vice-chair Fairclough asked if an analysis could be
conducted about the number of whitewater areas to determine
an cost amount that would be necessary for additional life
jackets.
Co-Chair Thomas believed that some fisherman donated life
jackets to the program when their children outgrew them.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the conversation would occur at
a later date.
Co-Chair Thomas MOVED to report CSHB 301(FIN) out of
committee with individual recommendations and the
accompanying fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
so ordered.
CSHB 301(FIN) was REPORTED out of committee with a "do
pass" recommendation and with previously published fiscal
impact note: FN1 (DNR).
9:22:15 AM
AT EASE
9:26:19 AM
RECONVENED
HOUSE BILL NO. 245
"An Act establishing a snow classic as an authorized
form of charitable gaming."
9:26:31 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE HAWKER, SPONSOR, explained that HB 245
would allow Four Valleys Community School, Inc. to conduct
a "snow classic" to raise funds for their organization. The
snow classic would be operated much like other contests
already allowed under statute: contestants would buy a
ticket and write a guess of the depth of snow accumulated
by a specific date and time on Mount Alyeska. The winner
would receive half of the net proceeds from the fundraiser.
Four Valleys Community School, Inc. (FVCS) is a nonprofit
organization that annually offers more than 250 year-round
classes and sponsors community events. While most of the
participants are Turnagain Arm area residents, people from
neighboring communities such as Anchorage, Eagle River, and
Homer have participated in FVCS events. FVCS also supports
athletes and local high school graduates with scholarships.
When community school funding from the Anchorage School
District was eliminated, local residents helped FVCS become
a 501c(3) nonprofit to ensure that lifelong learning and
recreational opportunities remain available to the
community. FVCS recruited volunteers to administer and
teach, secured corporate and private donations, and
fostered community involvement. Operating the snow classic
will help achieve the short-term goal of self-sufficiency
while keeping classes affordable and locally available. It
also will support a long-term goal of creating a stable
fundraising opportunity that will enhance the entire
community.
JULI LUCKY, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE MIKE HAWKER, pointed to
numerous written public testimonies included in members'
packets (copy on file).
Co-Chair Stoltze asked Ms. Lucky to discuss the letters
received.
Ms. Lucky listed various support for the legislation. She
stated that there were roughly 40 letters of the support
from the Alyeska Resort; Girdwood Rotary Club; Girdwood 20-
20; Girdwood Turnagain Arm Lion's Club; Girdwood, Inc.;
Little Bear's Playhouse; and many individuals and
businesses in the surrounding areas.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that there were 43 organizations on
the list of support.
9:30:54 AM
REBECCA REICHLIN, BOARD CHAIR, FOUR VALLEYS COMMUNITY
SCHOOL, GIRDWOOD, pointed to her written testimony that had
been provided to committee members (copy on file). She
spoke in support of HB 245. She discussed that there had
been some recent cuts to education funding, and the
legislation would encourage fundraising to survive the cuts
the schools had become a 501(c)3 organization. The
organization had experience with gaming activities. The
Snow Classic would allow the school to eliminate dependence
on tax dollars, meet the schools goal of self-sufficiency,
and would allow the school to help itself. She reiterated
her encouragement for the committee's support for the
legislation.
Vice-chair Fairclough asked whether there was a limit on
the amount that you could sell a ticket.
Co-Chair Stoltze replied that the committee would come back
to the question. He believed the Snow Classic would be a
historic event.
Representative Hawker endorsed and supported new ideas.
9:35:13 AM
Vice-chair Fairclough restated her question she wondered
whether there was a limit on the dollar amount of the
tickets. JEFF PRATHER, SUPERVISOR, GAMING SECTION, TAX
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, replied that there was no
dollar limit on the price of raffle tickets.
Co-Chair Stoltze asked whether there was a typical upper
limit on what tickets were sold for. Mr. Prather responded
that it was unusual to pay more than $100 for a raffle
ticket.
Vice-chair Fairclough discussed her prior experience
working in non-profit organizations. She understood that
there was a limit of $20 per raffle ticket for non-profits;
she believed the amount was restrictive.
Co-Chair Stoltze wondered whether there was a difference
between a raffle and a game of chance. Mr. Prather stated
that he was not aware of a $20 limit on raffle tickets.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the issue would be clarified.
Co-Chair Stoltze informed members that the bill would come
back before the committee the following week.
Vice-chair Fairclough noted that the fiscal note should be
listed as indeterminate and not zero. She asked the sponsor
if the analysis was correct. Representative Hawker
responded in the affirmative.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the committee would work with
the department on the fiscal note.
Co-Chair Stoltze CLOSED the public testimony with the
intent to reopen it in the future if necessary.
HB 245 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further
consideration.
9:41:02 AM
AT EASE
9:43:36 AM
RECONVENED
HOUSE BILL NO. 179
"An Act relating to cruelty to animals and making
failure to care for five or more animals in a single
continuous episode a class C felony."
REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN, SPONSOR, explained HB 179. He
stated that over the past several years animal control
officers had had to rescue multiple animals at one time in
the Mat-Su area. Troopers were issuing search warrants for
individuals for alleged abuse. Cases of abuse were
shocking, ant the bill worked to make five or more cases of
abuse a class C felony. The bill would provide a helpful
tool for prosecutors. He believed the gravity of the charge
should reflect the gravity of the situation. He was clear
that the legislation did not affect mushers who did a great
job caring for their dogs.
9:47:34 AM
MIKE SICA, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN, pointed to the
legislation. Currently under statute there were seven
counts of animal abuse: three class C felonies and four
misdemeanors. He looked at page 1, line 8 of the bill:
A person commits cruelty to animals if the person with
criminal negligence, fails to care for an animal and,
as a result, causes the death of the animal or causes
severe physical pain or prolonged suffering to the
animal.
Mr. Sica looked at page 2, line 11. The following would be
a class C misdemeanor within the legislation:
(If the animal cruelty occurs) with criminal
negligence, contemporaneously fails to care for five
or more animals and, as a result, causes the death of
five or more animals or causes severe physical pain or
prolonged suffering to five or more animals.
Mr. Sica spoke to the indeterminate fiscal notes. He
pointed to a "Stat Sheet" from the Department of Law (DOL)
displayed the number of offenses and cases related to
criminal negligent animal cruelty count 2 charge (copy on
file). He stated that the numbers range from one charge and
one defendant in 2008, to a high of 62 charges and 12 cases
in 2011. He stated that the fiscal impact would be zero or
almost zero. He stressed that the particular crime of
animal cruelty was infrequent, high profile, and impactful.
9:52:07 AM
PHIL MORGAN, ANIMAL CARE MANAGER, MAT-SU BOROUGH ANIMAL
SHELTER, PALMER (via teleconference), thanked the committee
for its time. He was currently driving to a location to
address a situation involving a number of dogs and cats
that had been neglected. He pointed out that work had been
done on the issue beginning in 2009. Officers had gone to
the location on a regular basis between 2009 and 2010 to
check on the animals; the owners were in financial trouble
and officers had checked on the dogs recently, which were
found to be in a deplorable state. He supported HB 179, and
believed it would help to enforce the issue. Animal
shelters needed something substantial to help enforce the
situation and he believed the current punishment was
woefully inadequate. The situations were very stressful and
costly on animal shelter staff, continued to get more
difficult. He urged the committee for its support of HB
179.
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that he had several family members
that volunteered at the Mat-Su animal shelter. He wondered
whether the proposed position was of the shelter, borough,
or personal. Mr. Morgan replied that if was a combination
of the borough manager, shelter, and personal position.
Representative Wilson noted that some people who may have
been accused of animal cruelty, were merely facing
financial straits, and were not intentionally harming
animals. She shared a story related to people who were
having trouble caring for animals, because of their
financial situation. She asked whether the people in the
description would be charged with a felony. Mr. Morgan
replied that he had not been to the site to provide more
detail. He remarked that the animal cruelty charges were
examined carefully, and he would need more information
about the specific case.
Co-Chair Stoltze wondered whether there was a non-
judgmental clause that an individual could drop off an
animal they could no longer care for. Mr. Morgan replied
that no judgment was passed on people that approached the
shelter for help. He felt the punishment should fit the
crime.
10:00:55 AM
Representative Neuman discussed testimony that people did
not understand the gravity of the situation. He thought
that people could get into financial distress and not
understand that they were no longer able to care for
animals. He wondered whether the punishment would
Mr. Morgan replied that well minded people, just wanted to
help one more animal. The point was that after people had
been counseled and given other options he did not know what
else could be done.
Co-Chair Stoltze discussed that Anne Carpeneti, Assistant
Attorney General, Legal Services Section-Juneau, Criminal
Division, Department of Law would address the aspects of
criminal negligence.
Mr. Morgan remarked that he always wanted to understand the
other point of view; however, there had to be a higher
punishment once it reached the level of some of the cases
he had seen.
10:04:59 AM
KAYLA EPSTEIN, MEMBER, ANCHORAGE ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISOR
BOARD, had no desire to make the issue an emotional appeal.
The bill greatly addressed the crime, she expressed support
for the HB 179. She pointed to an Anchorage case that
involved dogs, cats, and birds. The case had taken over a
year and had cost the municipality over $77,000 to care for
the animals; once criminal neglect had been proven, they
were able to remove an additional 55 animals. The
organization believed that the punishment should fit the
crime. She urged the committee's support of the
legislation.
Mr. Sica pointed out that he had discussed animal cruelty
with Vice-chair Fairclough. He stated that the issue was
not related to individuals who did not feed their dogs for
several days, they were cases of severe neglect. He painted
a sad picture of animals impacted by neglect. He discussed
the public's level of outrage or scorn to fit the crime.
10:10:51 AM
ANNE CARPENETI, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, LEGAL SERVICES
SECTION-JUNEAU, CRIMINAL DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF LAW, noted
that the department did not have a position on the bill.
Representative Costello asked what the sentence range was
for a class C felony. Ms. Carpeneti replied that the range
was zero to five years for a class C felony.
Co-Chair Stoltze asked Ms. Carpeneti to provide the
statutory reference at a future hearing.
Representative Costello wondered what penalties were in
other states for comparable offences. Mr. Sica responded
that there were other states that had tougher felonies, for
even one count of animal cruelty.
Representative Costello asked whether a person could fall
under the law if dogs were loose and one got hit by a car.
Ms. Carpeneti responded that in order to fall under
criminal negligence it depended on the circumstance. She
supposed it was possible for a person to be charged, if,
perhaps a person let their dog out on a busy street during
rush hour in Anchorage.
Representative Neuman wondered how criminal intent was
proven. Ms. Carpeneti replied that it was based on a
person's responses, behavior, and other factors. She noted
that a maximum fine for a class C felony was $50,000.
Representative Neuman asked if the court would determine
criminal negligence.
10:14:53 AM
Ms. Carpeneti responded that she had already reported how
the courts determined criminal negligence according to
statute. She furthered that in a case of animal cruelty the
court may look at factors related to failure to feed an
animal, resources available, what the person was doing at
the time. The department was ethically bound to the
requirement to prove negligence.
Representative Neuman asked for the definition of an
animal. Ms. Carpeneti replied that an animal was defined as
an vertebrate that was not a fish.
Representative Neuman asked where trapping fell into the
law. Ms. Carpeneti responded that the animal cruelty
statute excluded hunting and conduct that was necessarily
incidental to lawful fishing, hunting, dog mushing, or
trapping activities.
Co-Chair Stoltze asked about the practice of dog mushing
and how it fell under the law. Ms. Carpeneti replied that
the animal cruelty prohibition statute did not apply to
generally accepted dog mushing, pulling contests, rodeos,
or stock contests.
Co-Chair Stoltze pointed to Bill Maher and remarks made
about dog mushing.
10:18:44 AM
Vice-chair Fairclough asked how the proposal was consistent
with other parts of state statute related to domestic
violence, sex trafficking, or child abuse. Ms. Carpeneti
responded that the animal cruelty crime would be a class C
felony. She furthered that third degree assault was a class
C felony. She remarked that most domestic violence assaults
were resolved at a class A misdemeanor, fourth degree
assault level.
Vice-chair Fairclough asked what other types of crimes
qualified as a class C felony. Ms. Carpeneti replied that
example of class C felonies were as follows: assault in the
third degree; theft of $500 or more; larceny; and
possession of many serious drugs.
Vice-chair Fairclough noted that at some point it was
necessary to change the way things were done. She wondered
why it was not possible to take the animals away from a
person for neglect or abuse. She believed it had to do with
the due process and the time it took to prosecute. She
asked if there was a different way to solve the problem.
Ms. Carpeneti responded that the law did allow for an
animal to be forfeited, and the person was required to pay
for the care of the animal. She furthered that it was a
class A misdemeanor to fail to care for an animal, under
criminal negligence. The law specifically required that
each animal be considered separate.
10:24:19 AM
Vice-chair Fairclough wondered whether there was a
different way to solve the problem. Ms. Carpeneti added
that another provision in statute provided that there were
currently some tools available.
Representative Edgmon asked whether shooting an animal
would be a misdemeanor. Ms. Carpeneti replied that it would
be no crime at all, as long as prolonged suffering was not
inflicted.
Representative Guttenberg asked about the definition of a
musher. Ms. Carpeneti replied that there was no definition
of musher in criminal law.
Ms. Sica pointed to a minimum standard of care in state
law, which included reasonable medical attention. He noted
that Doug Gardner was available to answer additional
questions.
10:28:06 AM
Co-Chair Stoltze CLOSED public testimony.
HB 179 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further
consideration.
ADJOURNMENT
10:28:46 AM
The meeting was adjourned at 10:28 AM.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 245 Support Letters.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 245 |
| HB 245 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 245 |
| HB 245 Sectional Letterhead.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 245 |
| HB 245 Background Info.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 245 |
| HB 245 FVCS House Finance Testimony.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 245 |
| HB 301 CS WORKDRAFT FIN-3.14.12.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 301 |
| HB301 Restrictions.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 301 |
| HB179 Law Chart.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 179 |
| HB179 Letter Support.pdf |
HFIN 3/15/2012 8:30:00 AM |
HB 179 |